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*An appropriate slogan in a Scene.org t-shirt would be...
"We got demos"
29.6%29.6%(404)
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"Watching a demo, having a beer..."
19.8%19.8%(270)
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I don't like slogans at all.
14.1%14.1%(193)
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"The center of the scene"
10.8%10.8%(148)
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"Scene.org - and you know it"
9.6%9.6%(131)
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Have a better one, see discussion for it
8.9%8.9%(121)
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"Look no further"
5.1%5.1%(70)
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"Keep no substitutes"
2.2%2.2%(30)
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[1367 votes]*

* Posted by melw Thursday 1 July 2004 - 12:38 
We are planning to print some nice Scene.org t-shirts, available at various demoparties starting from Assembly 2004. However, our staff is not very good in deciding what the t-shirts should have besides the Scene.org logo and so we need your help with this.

You can also post here your own slogan suggestions - and if it happens we pick up a slogan that is suggested by some of you you'll get a free t-shirt. :)

* Posted by krg Thursday 1 July 2004 - 17:56 
Well, I prefer something more passionate.

Like "Use your Computing Power", "wake up your bits", "dance with 64Kbytes", "meet the reality of virual reality".

You want more ideas?

:-)

This is good too! "You want more ideas? > Scene.org!"

* Posted by legalize Saturday 3 July 2004 - 1:56 
nexus of the digital underground

* Posted by a0a Wednesday 7 July 2004 - 12:57 
Scene.Org - Your Digital Poetry Fix

* Posted by raindaemon Wednesday 14 July 2004 - 7:48 
what about

* Posted by axm Tuesday 20 July 2004 - 20:38 
front: Do You Demo?
back: We Do [scene.org]

front: Do You Speak Demo?
back: We Do [scene.org]

front: noninteractive multimedia demonstrations
back: [scene.org]

* Posted by monroe Tuesday 27 July 2004 - 16:14 
> front: Do You Demo?
> back: We Do [scene.org]

I totally like the interaction of front and back here. I'd prefer something like that, really!!

* Posted by a_lee_n Tuesday 20 July 2004 - 22:07 
demos make me happy,
make me happy!

* Posted by tomeq Sunday 25 July 2004 - 19:10 
It's better to use short slogans, to get "not-sceners" to think what do you exactly mean. There were few good ideas, so let's connect them: "[scene.org] , got the beauty?, realtime." "scene.org, art. flow. energy.", "scene.org... no trash, just art. realtime." . Think about it. It must be the same way original design as the scene itself... making "yet-another-cheesy-trendy-tshirt" would not make any sense...

* Posted by scoopex.org Monday 26 July 2004 - 12:51 
i like "We got demos" ... but what about

"we have demo."

?

cheers, keep the good work!

* Posted by ekoli Thursday 1 July 2004 - 19:40 
"no darn gamers, just scene lamers!" ;-)

* Posted by hitchhikr Thursday 1 July 2004 - 19:58 
."what do you think about my t-shirt ?"
."demos dealers"
."emasculate all gamers"
."i'm a drunkard"
."destroy the human race"
."i'm arneweisse"
."i'm not the organizer of this mess"
."beer, demo, beer, demo, beer, demo, beer, demo, beer, demo, beer..."
."quake"
."the demo sin"
."kick me"
."an organizer of this party is located on my left"
."an organizer of this party is located on my right"
."they forced me to buy it and to wear it"
."the organizer of this mess is located behind me"
."demoscene /'demeusi:n/: just an obscure form of pop art"
."The best counter strike mapping resource"
."This t-shirt belongs to: " (add nick/group here)
...
and all that sort of fascinating but somehow totally irrelevants slogans.

have a nice day.

[Post edited by hitchhikr on Friday 2 July 2004 - 1:58]

* Posted by sparcus Thursday 1 July 2004 - 20:51 
"I invented a slogan for scene.org and all I got was this lousy t-shirt"

* Posted by a0a Wednesday 7 July 2004 - 12:54 
I second that. That means I'm second. And don't ask me how many.

* Posted by nea Thursday 1 July 2004 - 23:48 
oh, a lot could be done...
puh... nearly anything is possible...

front: INSIDE
back: scene.org

front: Seen the Scene

front: Real Beer, Real Demos
back: Real Scene

front: I watched your Demo!

much more is possible... and ofcourse, if it wouldn't be a label already: inScene.org

[Post edited by nea on Thursday 1 July 2004 - 23:49]

* Posted by neptun Friday 2 July 2004 - 2:43 
I think Sanity said it best....

Demo Or Die

* Posted by BoyC Sunday 4 July 2004 - 4:19 
This is probably the best idea so far, altho
i'd definitely buy one that says "I'm a demoscener, if you see me running, I went for a beer" on the back too ;)

* Posted by jaw Friday 9 July 2004 - 0:06 
yes!

DEMO OR DIE
scene.org

* Posted by Nullsleep Sunday 11 July 2004 - 7:32 
i would cast my vote for "demo or die" ... i also wouldn't mind "plz be drunk"

* Posted by apricot Sunday 25 July 2004 - 22:55 
damn yes !

//i planned to order a t-shirt with
//following in large letters :

D E M O O R D I E *

//and following in small letters
//at the bottom of t-shirt :

*we stole Sanity slogan :P

//that would look nice imo

* Posted by apricot Sunday 25 July 2004 - 22:55 
yeah, meant to be
DEMO OR DIE

extra spaces got removed :(

* Posted by ekoli Friday 2 July 2004 - 8:22 
"Your mother is a motherfucking giraffe"

* Posted by skrebbel Friday 2 July 2004 - 9:24 
what ekoli said just there.

or "DEMOMAKING IS NOT A CRIME" in impact font.

* Posted by Shifter Saturday 3 July 2004 - 21:13 
Ooh dude, I'd so wear that! ;P

* Posted by ekoli Monday 5 July 2004 - 10:54 
I made a t-shirt that looked like that but the bloody print looked like shit after the first wash.
One guy wanted to punch me in the face for disrespecting his mother! :-)

* Posted by zoom Friday 2 July 2004 - 10:25 
"Machine is evil! BAD BAD BAD!"

* Posted by skrebbel Friday 2 July 2004 - 17:38 
actually i think just "scene.org" would be something i'd buy.

or your mother is a mother fucking giraffe (layed out as in the demo).

or well, at least not anything as cheesy as most suggestions (including the ones on the poll). it's not like sceners have to be all politically correct or anything..

* Posted by René Madenmann Saturday 3 July 2004 - 2:55 
I like the subtitle of fr-02:
Raum, Klang und Design.

* Posted by MrVader Saturday 3 July 2004 - 9:44 
"The Code Inside" inspired by the BP04-Invitation would be cool :)

* Posted by Zone (leZone) Saturday 3 July 2004 - 9:58 
"a computer is a tool to create"
"don't be a consummer, resist!"
"be creative or burn your computer"
"demoscene is not dead"
"art for free"
"art for all, art for free, art for you!"
"fuck riaa, we do free music for you!"
"computer generated art"
"stop consumming, it's time to create!"

* Posted by _-_-__ Sunday 4 July 2004 - 1:23 
Those sound so naïve and tacky. I keep complaining about the cynics, but on the other hand, with such hippie slogans who shouldn't be. (cynical, that is)

Anyway just to let you know, there's only one m in comsumer.

[Post edited by _-_-__ on Sunday 4 July 2004 - 1:25]

* Posted by Weyland Yutani Sunday 4 July 2004 - 2:12 
Destroy all humans

* Posted by Zone (leZone) Monday 5 July 2004 - 12:18 
STFU!!!

* Posted by skrebbel Monday 5 July 2004 - 11:29 
hey zone stop that, i like consuming.

* Posted by jimmi Sunday 4 July 2004 - 5:07 
"Disconnect me."

* Posted by melw Sunday 4 July 2004 - 10:09 
"I'd rather be nothing."

Just to clarify, we'll probably make a choice between no slogan at all or a slogan that really is cool enough for the t-shirts. So far the best suggestions on this forum are already used slogans and I feel like it wouldn't be nice to rip one (even if ripping is important part of the demoscene :). Not that having two "Demomaking is not a crime" t-shirts would hurt...

Well, keep the slogan suggestions coming, there's still time for the perfect slogan to come up.

* Posted by _-_-__ Sunday 4 July 2004 - 15:50 
Then again "demomaking is not a crime" is not *exactly* original either.

(And not just because it's ripped off from the famous skateboarding slogan, but it also was featured in at least a demo before it was used on buenzli tshirts. I'll let you guess which demo that was)

* Posted by melw Monday 5 July 2004 - 10:03 
Hmm... sounds like a demo with ripped Bubble & Bobble characters. :)

* Posted by fred Tuesday 13 July 2004 - 11:56 
i actually ripped it from the t-shirt "masturbating is not a crime", which of course ripped the "skateboarding is not a crime" one :)
didn't know about the demo, tho.

* Posted by Gargaj Sunday 4 July 2004 - 12:33 
"The name's org. scene.org."

* Posted by grip Sunday 4 July 2004 - 14:01 
"Got demos?"

* Posted by melw Monday 5 July 2004 - 10:04 
I actually like this one... short and simple.

* Posted by monroe Tuesday 27 July 2004 - 16:19 
Me too ... but make it:

Front: "Got demos?"
Back: "We do. [scene.org]"

Free alteration of a suggestion above made by axm : ) .

* Posted by badloop Tuesday 20 July 2004 - 10:21 
i was going to suggest this too ..

* Posted by Maali Sunday 4 July 2004 - 16:37 
"in scene.org we trust"
or
"scene.org - better than sex"
or
"01110011 01100011 01100101 01101110 01100101 00101110 01101111 01110010 01100111"

* Posted by lodda Sunday 4 July 2004 - 21:56 
"keep generating"
"we save our downtimes for easter - scene.org [could not resolve host]"

* Posted by TTT Sunday 4 July 2004 - 23:15 
"suck my fucking balls you stupid gamers"

"start making a demo before i shoot you"

"al'qademoa"

"nice tshirt huh? im wearing it for months now"

* Posted by TTT Sunday 4 July 2004 - 23:16 
"el presidente la revolution!"

* Posted by zoom Monday 5 July 2004 - 10:02 
A simple "Create." would be also nice i think.

* Posted by uncle-x Monday 5 July 2004 - 12:43 
i think zoom|cns is the only one with a good suggestion (including the originals)

scene.org

create.

evolve.

or something cliche as that might work...?

* Posted by skrebbel Tuesday 6 July 2004 - 0:39 
yeah, that, but without the evolve part!

* Posted by Gargaj Monday 5 July 2004 - 13:15 
actually scene.org relates to "Contain." more :D

* Posted by yenzen Monday 5 July 2004 - 20:45 
Mixed ideas from Denmark...

"scener's unite!"

"scener by choice"

"Fuck prerendered - We're realtime!"

"72dpi - all we need!"

"Binary Badass!"

"Game Over - Scene.org"

"In Scene.org we believe" (kinda cheesy i know)

* Posted by tierra Thursday 8 July 2004 - 23:35 
"Fuck prerendered - We're realtime!"

Anything derived from this would be good.

* Posted by Maali Tuesday 6 July 2004 - 14:52 
how about a 'make demo' button? :P

'we .organise your demos' ?

[Post edited by Maali on Tuesday 6 July 2004 - 14:53]

* Posted by moo-digit Thursday 8 July 2004 - 5:33 
well, I'm not sure if I should tell this, but a while ago I made some t-shirts with the words:

[scene.org]

they are for sale on my site http://mooseek.iict.net/ click on the shop link.
Anyway, I didn't do this for the money (I only get 2 dollars for each shirt sold), but to help spread the word about this great community. I hope you see this as I do, otherwise, if you need me to stop selling the shirts, I'll gladly do.

* Posted by v3nom Thursday 8 July 2004 - 9:06 
actually a simple [scene.org] would be nice

* Posted by Cie Thursday 8 July 2004 - 23:43 
"Those who know, know.
scene.org"

* Posted by Fozzie Saturday 10 July 2004 - 23:07 
- "Please fix your code"
- "Home of sceners"
- "All your demos belong to us"
- "I'm with scener"
- "Get a life !!! watch demos"
- "Digital Art"
- "Demos since '90"
- "Home of sceners"
- "Games suxx"
- Slogan of 'Pc demo fan club' : "Demos are to computer games what poetry is to prose"
- "Hexadecimal hangover"
- "Back 2 the demos"
- "640ko should be enough for everyone"
- "Think Demos"
- "THE scene"
- "Code / Design / Graphic / Music"
- "Remember to vote"
- "Don't miss the deadline"
- "Code it"
- "Just demos"
- "Code advisory"
- "Demos inside"

* Posted by kusma Tuesday 27 July 2004 - 13:21 
how about "I'm with lamer ->"?

* Posted by bonq Sunday 11 July 2004 - 13:37 
Front:
want to be scene?

Back
scene.org

* Posted by muh Sunday 11 July 2004 - 20:51 
a demo a day keeps the doctor away

all your base are belong to us

[Post edited by muh on Sunday 11 July 2004 - 22:12]

* Posted by fred Tuesday 13 July 2004 - 8:36 
i would either put "scene.org" alone or some text with a question mark and "scene.org" as an answer (in a good layout). my attempt:

"dreamer? - scene.org"

* Posted by psenough Tuesday 13 July 2004 - 16:16 
"true" :)

* Posted by bitbreaker Tuesday 13 July 2004 - 9:43 
What about: "We have computers which can beat your computers" ?

* Posted by the_scientist Wednesday 14 July 2004 - 5:43 
How about "Punish Your Machine"?
(from Robotnik, by Rage)

Always loved that.... :)

* Posted by phoenix Thursday 22 July 2004 - 21:57 
taken from a front 242 song title.

* Posted by raindaemon Wednesday 14 July 2004 - 7:48 
"you ain't scene nothin' yet!"

* Posted by phoenix Thursday 22 July 2004 - 21:59 
so far, this has been the only good slogan here over three words long.

* Posted by d-swi Thursday 15 July 2004 - 20:47 
something short like just "realtime."

i also like fozzie's "Please fix your code",
and raindaemon's "you ain't scene nothin' yet!" is hilarious.

* Posted by a0a Monday 19 July 2004 - 21:28 
You could have the "realtime" effects-brag-box and underneath it something like "3.1415.. etc billion poly's in this scene.org"

* Posted by Maali Friday 16 July 2004 - 14:48 
GET INSIDE THE SCENE
[SCENE.ORG]

* Posted by Maali Friday 16 July 2004 - 14:49 
or otherwise 'LOBSTER'... a lot of frenchies would appreciate that

* Posted by raindaemon Friday 16 July 2004 - 14:49 
another homophone:
"it must be scene to believe..."
btw, fozzie's "hex hangover" is a great suggestion.

* Posted by psenough Friday 16 July 2004 - 18:51 
hmm...

we could also just fineprint the source of tube/asc :D

* Posted by ekoli Tuesday 27 July 2004 - 20:41 
That would look really nice compared to other nerds with "Hello world!" source on their t-shirts. :)

* Posted by skrebbel Saturday 17 July 2004 - 10:11 
how about

dieser mensch ist glücklich! er hat scamps neuen happy hardcore track gehört! mach es ihm nach!

scene.org

* Posted by V. Saturday 17 July 2004 - 13:43 
hi all ! when will these tshirts be on sale ?? will it be possible to order 'em on line ?

i'm very fuckin'much interested, thx !

[Post edited by V. on Saturday 17 July 2004 - 13:46]

* Posted by ete Sunday 18 July 2004 - 14:01 
What about: "your shirt sux" on front
and at the back: "mine hex" and "scene.org" in small letters beneath

* Posted by psenough Thursday 22 July 2004 - 10:07 
we were trying to get some for asm already but that might not be possible.
so bunzli or evoke should be a more sure shot.

we'll see if they get ready in time or not. :)

* Posted by ekoli Wednesday 21 July 2004 - 23:34 
"because computers never simulates headaches"

* Posted by V. Thursday 22 July 2004 - 1:27 
"Keep the Power of The True Scene Alive"

* Posted by polythene Thursday 22 July 2004 - 16:00 
dudes, better leave an unanswered question on it, like this

got demo?

it's rather describes an endless flow of your imagination, creativity, energy.
imo.

got the beauty?

* Posted by Miza[R] Saturday 24 July 2004 - 1:14 
FRONT: Slave to the
BACK . [Scene.org]

or

FRONT: Slave to 64k
BACK . [Scene.org]

or

FRONT: DemO Slave
BACK . [Scene.org]

or

FRONT: [Scene.org]
BACK . [DEvoTioN]

or

FRONT: [Devour 64k]
BACK . | Scene.org |

FRONT: Call to Mind
BACK . [Scene.org]

* Posted by Miza[R] Saturday 24 July 2004 - 1:15 
.........or something like that! :)

* Posted by resonate Saturday 24 July 2004 - 9:30 
Something that suggests the realtime aspect, but maybe in a more subtle manner, like "Watch the beauty unfold right before your eyes."

Failing that, "Demo or die" always works for me.

* Posted by Paralax Saturday 24 July 2004 - 17:30 
"Envmap this"
"I got your code right here"
"I'll do it in 40K"
"All about hex"
"Scene's dead."

* Posted by V. Saturday 24 July 2004 - 22:29 
"4ddict3d to BuMp-m4pped V3cToRS" ... :)

* Posted by quarn Monday 26 July 2004 - 20:21 
Yeah. I'd like "Scene's dead" on the front and "btw, I fucked the girl in farbrausch" on the back.

* Posted by kusma Tuesday 27 July 2004 - 13:25 
!!!! best one yet! :D

* Posted by kusma Tuesday 27 July 2004 - 13:24 
"I debug your source code" ? :)

* Posted by Fozzie Saturday 24 July 2004 - 23:00 
Btw i like this scene.org logo : http://old.scene.org/2000/

It would be nice to use this one... imho

* Posted by monroe Tuesday 27 July 2004 - 16:27 
TRUE! the current one rather sucks. just like the whole webdesign. Next thing to do after this tshirt thing ...

* Posted by _-_-__ Tuesday 27 July 2004 - 18:55 
The webdesign has been done by somebody who actually *cared* to do something for scene.org when scene.org ask for web-designers. This is much better than people who whine and complain till their heart's dry.

* Posted by iguanaman Sunday 25 July 2004 - 18:02 
"Your Demo Smorgasbord - Scene.org"

* Posted by apricot Sunday 25 July 2004 - 23:02 
"we prefer 64 to 69"

* Posted by apricot Sunday 25 July 2004 - 23:13 
"we are demo" // used in point blank

FRONT : scene
BACK : org /* or ' .org' */ and a logo

"got a life ?
get a scene !"

FRONT : "watch your back" :)
BACK : "scene.org"

FRONT : "do you ?"
BACK : "scene.org"

FRONT : "never enough"
BACK : "scene.org"

"44 45 4D 4F"

and once again

"we prefer 64 to 69"

would be cool

[Post edited by apricot on Sunday 25 July 2004 - 23:14]

* Posted by Gaffer Monday 26 July 2004 - 5:05 
i am a woman, my wife is a man, he's twelve years old.

* Posted by Gaffer Monday 26 July 2004 - 8:00 
...or "ARSE!"

* Posted by a0a Friday 30 July 2004 - 13:05 
Man, how this one brings back memories! ;)

* Posted by polythene Tuesday 27 July 2004 - 9:07 
so what's the decision?
uh-uh
shall i ever be able to buy it?!?!
i'm so excited!!!
i'm just eager to wear it, even knowing the fact that i've never written a single code string as a part of a demo code...jus' stupid ms applications :(

i want to be kewl!
yeah :)

ps to be serious, WHEN?

* Posted by driftbeat Friday 30 July 2004 - 3:46 
stuff the slogans how about [scene.org] with some crazy awesome contemporary design

* Posted by melw Sunday 1 August 2004 - 11:57 
Thanks everybody for the feedback. The t-shirts will have "Got demos?" in the back. You can expect them to arrive for Buenzli and Evoke.

[Post edited by melw on Sunday 1 August 2004 - 11:57]

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